Hi, this is Jonathan Lehman.

And Mike McKinley is here to my right.

And that was the voice of Mark Devere.

Mike McKinley is here and welcome to this episode of Nine Marks Pastors Talk, Nine Marks,

who exists to equip church leaders with the biblical vision and practical resources for building out the churches learn more at nine marks.org. He does that all without a script.

That's impressive. I know. That's why he's the editor. Mike is the pastor of Sterling Park Baptist Church

in Sterling Park, Virginia, VA. And also we have a guest, another guest, with us, Matt McCola.

Matt, thank you for being here.

Hey, guys.

It's my pleasure.

Thanks for having me.

Pastor of Edgefield Church in Nashville, T.N.

How long have you been there, brother?

Well, that is not as straightforward a question as it may sound.

So I guess I've been the pastor of Edgefield Church now for four months.

But I've been a pastor here in the

National City Center for about 11 years. At Trinity, and then you guys kind of merged. We merged

with another congregation in the city center just a few months ago. And is this the same Matt McCullough,

who's also the author of the book everybody was reading called Remember Death?

Well, I am the author of that book.

I can't attest to the fact that everyone was reading it.

That would be news to me.

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