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Try Dove's best ever body wash today. Hello and welcome to the 538 Politics Podcast. I'm Gailin Druk. I'm just going to be honest right at the top. We just heard the guilty verdict in

Trump's criminal trial moments ago so I don't have anything written and yes we are going to do this live but I do have the help of the

law professor who has been helping us all along who is Jessica Roth from Cardozo law also a

former federal prosecutor.

Jessica, thank you so much for literally being available within 15 minutes of the jury

coming down with a verdict in Trump's criminal trial.

Welcome to the podcast and thank you for being here.

Thank you.

It's my pleasure to be here with you again.

And in case listeners haven't heard, I will just read the headline,

Trump has been found guilty in all 34 counts

of falsifying business records in the Hush Money case.

I also should say, Jessica, that after the last podcast

that we recorded, you said know off the record behind the scenes my

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